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Sticky: SAP Solution Manager 7.1 Q&A on test management, BPCA and TBOMs with Michael Pytel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:40PM #21
Doug Snyder
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Hi Michael: In 7.1, is it possible to create static T-BOMs in a batch job?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:40PM #22
mpettinella05
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:35PM, Kristine Erickson wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:30PM, mpettinella05 wrote:

can you send me the link?  I am having trouble logging in


Thanks for joining us today! You're successfully logged in  - feel free to post a question here for Michael Pytel, who will be responding to your questions with his own posts in this thread (audio or webinar/PPT). It's a great opportunity to quickly get your questions answered. Thanks!


Kristine Erickson, editor, Insider Learning Network


Thanks, I didnt realize that this was just a Q&A forum.  I thought there was a webcast that went along with this..my apologies


 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:41PM #23
carywong
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Is this just Q&A or there is a link to the actual webminar?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:44PM #24
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 11:30AM, matthew_harmon wrote:

Is there a difference between BPCA and Change Impact Analysis? 


Can this functionality be used to determine what objects will be impacted based on the import of SAP notes to a system. 


Will this identify what will need to be tested? What are the pre-requsites?  i.e., a Solution set up. 


What can be done if we do not currently have a solution established?


Is BPCA accessed through Soluiton Manager workcetenters, if so, which work center?


 


Hell Matthew!  I think you have the same question several people do.  The impact analysis of changes is BPCA.  A change can be a support package, a single transport, groups of transports, or an enhancement package activation.  BPCA compares the objects in those objects with the Technical Bill of Materials you created as part of your business process repository in a project or solution.


You can use BPCA for SAP Notes.  The process would go…


Download SAP Note via SNOTE, implement and note the transport number.  Goto the Test Management Workcenter in Solution Manager 7.1 and select BP Change Analyzer.  Input the system, client, transport number and run the analysis against a project or solution with your companies transactions/reports (TBOMS)


Will this identify what needs to be tested?  Exactly!  This is the value add – targeted testing of only the objects to be affected.


Prereqs?  SOlution Manager Setup (SOLMAN_SETUP) must be run to completion for all systems to be analyzed/invvolved (Dev, QA, Prod).  This includes System Prep, Basic Config and Managed System Config.


How is BPCA accessed?  via transaction SOLMAN_WORKCENTER and then Test Management.  Make sure you have the correct roles assigned for the workcenters.  You can find the Solution Manager 7.1 Security guide here…


service.sap.com/~form/sapnet?_SHORTKEY=0... > Operations > Security Guide

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:46PM #25
Amy Thistle
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:41PM, carywong wrote:


Is this just Q&A or there is a link to the actual webminar?




Hi Cary, This is a Q&A - just a chance to ask Michael your questions. While there is no webinar, if you registered for today's Q&A (bit.ly/MGdMnB), you'll be able to download some background materials that Michael put together for today's Forum. Feel free to post your question at any time! Thanks!

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:48PM #26
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 11:31AM, mza wrote:

Hi Michael


 


What do I miss in using Statistic instead of Dynamic TBOM (with some pracitical examples) and how big is the risk in only using Statistic TBOM in practice?


MZA!  Thank you for joining!  Good questions.


First, SAP's offical recommendation is to use Dynamic recordings since this records how you actually run the transaction in all its variations (user exits, customizations, etc).


A Static recording basically does a where used on the transaction but would be limited to the objects used by starting the transaction.  It would not record the objects called while actually using the transaction.  Some more detail can be found here.


help.sap.com/saphelp_sm71_sp01/helpdata/...


In terms of risk - it's high since you are not capturing how you users actually use the tcode.  Is it a good place to start and then target specific tcodes for dynamic tbom recording? sure.  That's an option if you risk tolerance is a little higher and you want to have targeted testing today.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:48PM #27
angelperez
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Hi Michael.

What new features will be added for BPCA and TBOMs in the sort time?

thanks!
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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:53PM #28
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 11:49AM, mza wrote:

Hi Michael


 


How do I use the TBOM Item Criticality?


Mza - You can use this feature to provide a weighting on TBOMs.  Most of my projects are focused on getting TBOMs recorded and BPCA working.  So I havent had much opportunity to work on this feature.  Here's a link to more information on weighting and the criticality.


 


help.sap.com/saphelp_sm71_sp01/helpdata/...


I hope this helps...

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:54PM #29
mpettinella05
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What is the typical time frame that you have seen at other customers to get BPCA fully implemented and ready for use?  Assuming we need to populate our business processes/content into Sol Man and then go throught the TBOM process etc.  Are there any tools or service offering from SAP that will help accelerate the process to get BPCA up and running.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 12:56PM #30
matthew_harmon
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:46PM, Amy Thistle wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:41PM, carywong wrote:


Is this just Q&A or there is a link to the actual webminar?




Hi Cary, This is a Q&A - just a chance to ask Michael your questions. While there is no webinar, if you registered for today's Q&A (bit.ly/MGdMnB), you'll be able to download some background materials that Michael put together for today's Forum. Feel free to post your question at any time! Thanks!


Hi Michael,


Thanks for the explaination. That sparked another question.  We currently do not have a project that represents our current soltuion.  We are planning on running SolDocA to get us to a structure of scenarios, processes and transactions.  Just to confirm, the steps we would need to take are run SolDocA, generate a structure (project) then import the notes in question, run BPCA against that project to determine what objects will be impacted.


Does this also take into account things such as bolt-ons such as AutoSys?

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