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Sticky: SAP Solution Manager 7.1 Q&A on test management, BPCA and TBOMs with Michael Pytel
12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:23PM #41
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:54PM, mpettinella05 wrote:

What is the typical time frame that you have seen at other customers to get BPCA fully implemented and ready for use?  Assuming we need to populate our business processes/content into Sol Man and then go throught the TBOM process etc.  Are there any tools or service offering from SAP that will help accelerate the process to get BPCA up and running.


The typically time frame depends on how mature your business process repository is in your project or solution.  Lots of customers dont have their business processes (transactions) documented so they are in the same boat.  Here's a high level process flow


  1. Run Solution Documentation Assistant to disccover your transaction codes and reports in use today on ERP/CRM/SCM/BW etc
  2. Leverage the RBE rules are part of Enterpise Support to kick start your business process documentation
  3. Get your tcodes assigned to a process in a project in SOLAR01/SOLAR02
  4. Generate static TBOMS to start and then target high use transactions for Dynamic TBOMs
  5. Start using BPCA


I lead a session at SAPPHIRE 2012 that walks you thru the process.  I will post a copy in the forum.


 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:27PM #42
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:56PM, matthew_harmon wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:46PM, Amy Thistle wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:41PM, carywong wrote:


Is this just Q&A or there is a link to the actual webminar?




Hi Cary, This is a Q&A - just a chance to ask Michael your questions. While there is no webinar, if you registered for today's Q&A (bit.ly/MGdMnB), you'll be able to download some background materials that Michael put together for today's Forum. Feel free to post your question at any time! Thanks!


Hi Michael,


Thanks for the explaination. That sparked another question.  We currently do not have a project that represents our current soltuion.  We are planning on running SolDocA to get us to a structure of scenarios, processes and transactions.  Just to confirm, the steps we would need to take are run SolDocA, generate a structure (project) then import the notes in question, run BPCA against that project to determine what objects will be impacted.


Does this also take into account things such as bolt-ons such as AutoSys?


Hey Matthew - you have the process almost down.  And it sounds easier in two sentences that is really is :)


  1. Use the Solution Manager security guide I posted here to get the correct access to your team :) no SAP_ALL !
  2. Run your SoDocA analysis
  3. Write back all processes/transactions/reports to a project
  4. Structure you transactions/reports in processes that make sense
  5. Use the TBOM worklist to assign tbom recordings to your team
  6. Get your TBOMs done
  7. Then run BPCA over the transport for the SAP  Note and compare against your project


If AutoSys is an ABAP add-on and is actually installed in ERP - then yes.  Create your TBOMs for the autosys programs and it's covered. 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:28PM #43
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:58PM, mza wrote:

Hi Michael


 


Thank you for the reply on static / dynamic Tbom's. For my understanding, could one example that the static TBOM would not catch be an unserexit on a field? If the example is wrong, could you please provide another. Thank you.


You are correct - Static TBOM would not catch a user exit based on data entered into a specific filed.  It would not catch custom search helps you've added either.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:28PM #44
David Molush
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:10PM, MichaelcPytel wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:48PM, angelperez wrote:

Hi Michael.

What new features will be added for BPCA and TBOMs in the sort time?

thanks!


Angel Perez - Good question!  I think the two newest features are the ability to analyze the contents of a Maintenance Optimizer download basket.  For example, compare the objects to be applied to a system before they are actually installed.  And the next best improvement is the ability to analyze EHP Business Function Activiation.  Since EHP business functions are a one-way street (you cant term them off up to EHP5) - I think customers will like this feature so they know exactly what will be affected.


 


Hope all is well.  Thank you for posting!


I thought that the Switch Framework would allow such functionality to be turned off.  Once it's on it's on.  But is this on by default?

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:34PM #45
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:04PM, tgirouard wrote:

Hi Michael,


"Ah, good question re: accuracy.  BPCA is only as good as your Technical Bill of Materials recording.  If you created TBOM recordings for every variation of transaction – then you are covered."


How long does it take an average customer to create TBOMs for every variation of used transactions/reports? Do customers struggle with where to start? 


I'm not going to say "it depends" - promise!


If you have manual test scripts for all your transactions, then the TBOM process will go quickly.  We also try to coordinate TBOM recordings with major release cycles, etc.  If you're going to have your testing team run an integration test - it's only a few extra steps to have them generate the TBOM as well. 


So for your question - if you have manual test cases for everything.  30mins a transaction/report.  If you dont - then people have to find data, run the transaction once, run the TBOM, etc.  So you're looking at 45-60mins a transactions.


Scary! I know!  But the effort pays off when you company is no longer executing blind testing of all objects.  You'll only be testing whats affected.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:37PM #46
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:08PM, B Himpler wrote:

Hello Michael -


Thank you for your time today.


We having been using SolMan Test Workbench very successfully for the past couple years.  We currently have SAP Standard Support, can we use BPCA analysis functionality and autocreate test plans? Also, can we use the TBOM functionality if we do not have Enterprise Support?


Thank you.



Good question.  I dont work for SAP - but I think you are covered.  You can find the offical word over here...


service.sap.com/solman-baseline


The Solution Manager product managers always ask me to tell customers "check with your account rep" - but I would start with the above link.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:43PM #47
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:14PM, Kiran wrote:

Hi Michael,


I heard you at an ASUG event last year where you did a presentation on BPCA and TBOMs.  Do you have the presentation posted up anywhere online as I would like to review it again.


Thanks,
KiranLaughing


Kiran - Thank you for joining.  I just spoke to the editors and I can only post here if its on ASUG website.  I'm searching now and will post a link when I find it.


I will also post to my twtter account @michaelpytel


Hopefully see you at another conference!  SAP Projects 2012 in Vegas?  I'm running a hands-on lab for BPCA and Test Workbench!


 

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:45PM #48
MichaelcPytel
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Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:28PM, David Molush wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 1:10PM, MichaelcPytel wrote:

Jun 12, 2012 -- 12:48PM, angelperez wrote:

Hi Michael.

What new features will be added for BPCA and TBOMs in the sort time?

thanks!


Angel Perez - Good question!  I think the two newest features are the ability to analyze the contents of a Maintenance Optimizer download basket.  For example, compare the objects to be applied to a system before they are actually installed.  And the next best improvement is the ability to analyze EHP Business Function Activiation.  Since EHP business functions are a one-way street (you cant term them off up to EHP5) - I think customers will like this feature so they know exactly what will be affected.


 


Hope all is well.  Thank you for posting!


I thought that the Switch Framework would allow such functionality to be turned off.  Once it's on it's on.  But is this on by default?


David - Correct.  Up to EHP4 for sure.  Maybe even EHP5 - once you actvate an enhancement package business function - it's on for good.  With EHP6 - they are introducing business functions that can be reversed - but only those added in EHP6


 


Michael

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:47PM #49
Amy Thistle
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Thanks to all who joined is in the Forum today. Some great discussion here!   A full summary of all the questions will be available in the next few days here in the IT Forum and in Insider Learning Network’s IT Group.


Although this Forum is now closed, you can post your own questions at any time in  the IT Forum. Simply log in to Insider Learning Network, go to the IT Forum and select the "New Thread" button at the top of the page.


And once again, thanks to Michael Pytel (@michaelpytel) of NIMBL for  taking these questions today.

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12 months ago  ::  Jun 12, 2012 - 1:53PM #50
Amy Thistle
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And for more on Solution Manager 7.1... 


On June 28, you can join Michael Pytel for a full webinar on 7.1 and Technical Operations -- "Driving business process excellence with Technical Operations in Solution Manager 7.1" -- brought to you by my colleagues at SAPexperts.


Register for Michael's June 28 webinar today and tune in to learn how Technical Operations in Solution Manager 7.1 expands your capability beyond CCMS to proactively monitor SAP components. Michael will also present on planning for a Technical Operations implementation, and how other customers have implemented Technical Operations. 


And start planning now for our annual Managing Your SAP Projects event  October 2012 in Las Vegas, Nevada, with 8 tracks, including sessions dedicated to project management tools and accelerators. Be sure to join us and your peers for best practices, tools, and methodologies for managing your SAP projects.


Follow @iln4SAP for updates on upcoming Q&As and other events.


Thanks again for joining us today!

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