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Sticky: Tuning your systems for migration to BW 7.3 - Q&A with BI experts Joerg Boeke & Raymond Busher
9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:10PM #21
ZAYNASHEV Tim
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:02PM, joergboeke wrote:

Sep 13, 2012 -- 11:57AM, ZAYNASHEV Tim wrote:

Hello gurus!


Regarding Slide 6. Optimize Data Layout Within DB


Any feature to perform repartitioning automatically when the number of max.partions in years reached? Wish to avoid manual maintenance at all.


Regards
Tim


Hi Tim


repartitioning is currently just a manual matter.


What I normally do is partitioning for the next 10 years.


Yes you're right to say whats about the year 11 after the partitioning is outdated.


An idea which comes to my mind is to create a report or extractor view ( for being used in a virtual InfoCube) to spot the partitioning information stored within BW Cube information table ( just send me an email and I can forward the details about the whereabout of such information, I need to check my internal docu)


By using a BW query on this cube you could do some exception reportinh sending you an info when cubes might be outdated


I hope that answers your question


Thanks Joerg. That's enough for a moment.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:10PM #22
Heather Black
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Hi Raymond & Joerg,


I have a question about BW 3.5 customers who know that their SAP support is ending in the next few months. What are some specific issues that those customers need to be prepared for? 


Thanks!


Heather

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:13PM #23
joergboeke
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:04PM, M.S. Hein wrote:

Hie Joerg & Raymond.


I have a question. We are hearing some confusion about the authorizations in 7.3. What do you see as benefits of changes to authorizations in the new release?


Thanks.


I am not sure about the " confusion" what exactely you mean.


What is important between upgrading from 3.5 to /.3 and from 7.x to 7.3 is the following.


While running BW 7.x you can decide whether to use the old authorization (RSSM approach) or the new analysis authorization. YOu could even switch for and back.


So plenty of time to test the new concept.


When upgarding from 3.x to 7.3 you NEED TO USE the new analysis authorization concept.


That means you should be aware how to implement and use the new concept.


I often see customers still using old authorization variables in 7.x that have no real use anymore instead of using the new world in apropper way.


I recommend to investigate or tarin yourself with the new authorizations ( maybe on a sandbaox system, or use an experienced consultatnt.


The timeline after upgrading from 3.x to 7.3 is a bit shorter in terms of authorizations


Hopefully this is your expected answer

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:16PM #24
Raymond Busher
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:10PM, Heather Black wrote:

Hi Raymond & Joerg,


I have a question about BW 3.5 customers who know that their SAP support is ending in the next few months. What are some specific issues that those customers need to be prepared for? 


Thanks!


Heather


Hi Heather,


Even if SAP is no longer supporting the system, it has been up and running for quite some time, and if you are on a "relatively" stable platform, but should a problem occur you will have to pay for subsequent support on a problem for problem basis.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:17PM #25
Sebastien Lepeltier
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Hi,


I'm coming back on the delta queues with the five steps you recommended


After step 1 , stop the updater process in R/3 , all data change in R/3 are lost ?


I'm not to understand what is exactly the updater : do you speak about program to transfer data from outbound queues to delta queues ?


 

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:23PM #26
Raymond Busher
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:17PM, Sebastien Lepeltier wrote:

Hi,


I'm coming back on the delta queues with the five steps you recommended


After step 1 , stop the updater process in R/3 , all data change in R/3 are lost ?


I'm not to understand what is exactly the updater : do you speak about program to transfer data from outbound queues to delta queues ?


 


Hello Sebastian, the discussion here is coming from the 2LIS... DataSources. In the past sometimes SAP delivers in the ERP system which changes the sources. This has often resulted in a "hiccup" in these DELTA queues so that some data is lost.


The recommendation is to ensure that DELTA Queues are always empty when basis changes are made in your SAP operating environment. e.g. ERP, Netweaver etc.


The "updater" maybe a less than optimal translation from German, apologies if so. If you require more details, let me know.


Raymond


 

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:26PM #27
BridgetKotelly
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where do you see the biggest challenges in BW 7.3 upgrades in general? Can you share your thoughts/experiences on pitfalls and solutions?

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:26PM #28
joergboeke
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:23PM, Raymond Busher wrote:

Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:17PM, Sebastien Lepeltier wrote:

Hi,


I'm coming back on the delta queues with the five steps you recommended


After step 1 , stop the updater process in R/3 , all data change in R/3 are lost ?


I'm not to understand what is exactly the updater : do you speak about program to transfer data from outbound queues to delta queues ?


 


Hello Sebastian, the discussion here is coming from the 2LIS... DataSources. In the past sometimes SAP delivers in the ERP system which changes the sources. This has often resulted in a "hiccup" in these DELTA queues so that some data is lost.


The recommendation is to ensure that DELTA Queues are always empty when basis changes are made in your SAP operating environment. e.g. ERP, Netweaver etc.


The "updater" maybe a less than optimal translation from German, apologies if so. If you require more details, let me know.


Raymond


 


just as an add on answer


No data is lost in R3.


The "updater" means just an asynchronous way data is being processed in R3 between data entry and internal execution.


After restarting the updater, the data will be processed and delivered into the delta queue


Joerg

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:34PM #29
joergboeke
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 12:27PM, BridgetKotelly wrote:

where do you see the biggest challenges in BW 7.3 upgrades in general? Can you share your thoughts on pitfalls and solutions?


The biggest challanges from the historic point of view were


Authorizations ( #1) because a lot of customers did not think about the loss of the old authorization concept and werent prepared well.


The preparation steps prior to upgrade (#2)


( housekeeping and cleaning of the systems in terms of obslete data and open tarnsports)


 


A buch of errors ( SAP program features ;)  )that occurred during the early stages of BW7.3 ( its better with the actual version)


 


The wrong ideas and understandings of fisrt updrading to 7.0 than to 7.3 instead of directly going to 7.3


I have some Problems and its solution noted down and I can share those information with the paticipants.


I will send te list to Kristine and Bridget and they can forward it by tomorrow.


 


Joerg

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 12:35PM #30
BridgetKotelly
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Thanks to all who posted questions and followed the discussion!


 A full summary of all the questions will be available here in Insider Learning Network’s  BI/BW Group. If you have registered for this Q&A, you will also receive an email alerting you when the transcript is posted.


 For more discussion of BW uprades, I invite you to join me at our new BI 2012 event in Singapore this October – our first ever BI event in Singapore! For more information, you’ll find full details on the BI 2012 conference web site.


 And thank you again to Joerg Boeke and Raymond Busher of BIAnalyst for joining us today!


 

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